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Crux Australis Principal Herald


Wakeline de Foxley
PO Box 91 Sandy Bay, Tasmania 7006
phone: +61 3 6225 4334
herald at sca dot org dot au

Warmest greetings unto the College of Heralds of the Kingdom of Lochac, and unto any others who may read this missive from Wakeline de Foxley, Crux Australis Principal Herald

From Crux Australis


Roster Changes

None this month.


Important Addresses

Crux Australis Principal Herald:

Wakeline de Foxley
PO Box 91, Sandy Bay TAS, 7006
(03) 6225 4334

Email: herald at sca dot org dot au

Baryl Herald:

Massaria da Cortona
PO Box 91, Sandy Bay TAS, 7006
(03) 6225 4334

Email: massaria at hotmail dot com

Bombard Herald (Ceremonies and Protocol):

Uberto Renaldi

Email: bombard at sca dot org dot au

Canon Herald (OP and Gentry list):

Karl Faustus von Aachen (Paul Sleigh )
PO Box 1269, Belconnen ACT 2616
(02) 6271-1534 0407-468-244.

Email: canon at sca do org do au

Astrolabe Herald (New Zealand Regional Deputy):

Alys de Wilton (Jennifer Geard)

Email: geard at verso dot org

Rocket Pursuivant (Special Projects):

Giles de Roet (Mark Calderwood)
PO Box 247
Jesmond NSW 2299

Hund Herald (External Commentary):

Thorfinn Hrolfsson (Steven Roylance)
1592 Malvern Road, Glen Iris, VIC 3146.

Email: roylance at corplink dot com dot au

Mortar Pursuivant

Vacant


Submission Requirements

Cost: $20 per new submission (name, device or badge). No cost for resubmissions (within the permitted time limit) or branch submissions. Note: a new name and device costs a total of $40. Make cheques or money orders payable to "SCA Inc. College of Heralds". Do not send cash through the post!

Copies required:

NAMES: Two (2) copies of both the form and ALL documentation, including title page of each book NB: The title page is not the same as the book cover! Essays about a submitter's persona may be entertaining, but do NOT constitute documentation. When citing web sites as documentation, you must include a printout of the pages used. Please don't staple your forms, paperclips are fine and loose is ok too.

DEVICES AND BADGES: Four (4) colour copies and one (1) black & white OUTLINE copy. The colour copies should be accurately coloured, preferably in felt tip pen. Colour printers or faint coloured pencil is not acceptable. The colours must be visible across a crowded Herald's meeting. Laurel has requested that gold pen NOT be used, as it deteriorates in files and turns to glue. Please don't staple your forms, assuming that all goes well at kingdom level they are separated and go to four different homes. Paperclips are fine and loose is ok too. 

Please include ALL necessary documentation to support each submission. It is the responsibility of the submitter to present their submission in a way that makes registration easy. Name documentation should be as accurate as possible. Failure to provide sufficient documentation is a cause for return of your submission. If you are having trouble with your documentation then speak to your local herald. If they can't answer your specific question, consider writing to Blazons, or contacting me. If I don't know the answer but I will at least be able to point you in the direction of someone who will.


May Meeting Results

The April meeting was held on Tuesday 10th May 2005. Present at the meeting were Wakeline de Foxley, Crux Australis Herald; Massaria da Cortona; Baryl Herald; Francis of Hexham, Dromond Herald; Hrolf Hrolfsson Herald Extroardinary; Declan of Drogheda, Pursuivant Extraordinary; Melangell ferch Rhodri, Acting Pursuivant for the College of St Gildas; Rhodri ap Tewdwr Herald in training and Beatrix Aetholsdotter of Jelling, interested onlooker.


Submissions Forwarded to Laurel

1. Annabella Debonnaire

New Name(See Returns for device)

The submitter seeks a feminine name. She makes no request for authenticity and will allow minor changes.
Annabella is found as a header spelling in Withycombe with Annabel dated to 1367 and Anabel dated to 1311, no dated version of the desired spelling is given. The submitter provides documentation of the desired spelling from record C143/118/11 of the National Archives of the United Kingdom which from a recorded dated 1316 cites one "Adam Pygot and Annabella his wife to retain messuages, land, rent and the fifth part of a mill and dovecot in Wotton acquired by them from Thomas Paynel."
Debonnarie is cited in the Oxford English Dictionary as "Old French. debonaire, prop. a phrase de bonne aire (11th C.) of good disposition. Very common in Middle English but obsolescent from the 16th century and now a literary archaism often assimilated in spelling to modern French d'ebonnaire." The OED also shows the most common useage of the word occurs in the late 1300s with the forms debonere (1225, 1297, 1382), de bonere (1297), debonayre (1366, 1375, 1430), deboneire(1374), debonaire (1393, 1590) debonnaire (1545). The OED provides the following dates quote with the desired spelling: "1545 T. Ranynalde "Byrth Mankynde" By honset, sober, debonnaire and gentle manners."
Thus the submitter is requesting a descriptive byname which seems appropriate for a late period English name.

3. Arganhell merch Briauc

Device Resubmission

Gules, on a fess rayonny argent three roundelles gules.

This device was originally returned by Crux in June 2004 because the tortaux were too small and the rays in the rayonny field division were too small and too numerous. It was resubmitted in March 2004 and was again returned as insufficient forms were provided. This new version rectifies the pervious problems.
The submitter's name was included on the March 2005 LoI.

Arganhell's device

3. Everard Sefar

Device Resubmission

Argent, a cross bottany and a chief triangular gules.

This device was originally returned by Crux in June 2004 for a redraw as original design was unidentifiable being somewhere between per chevron inverted and a chief triangular. It was resubmitted in March 2004 and was again returned as insufficient forms were provided. This new version rectifies the pervious problems.
The submitter's name was included on the March 2005 LoI.

Everard's device

4. Isabella Rossini

Device Resubmission

Argent, a saltire azure overall a fireball gules.

This device was originally returned by Crux in December 2004 because the gules fireball was too small. This new version rectifies the pervious problems.
The submitter's name was registered on the January 2005 LoAR.

Isabella's device

5. John Bucstan de Glonn

Name and Device

Per fess indented azure and gules, in chief two fleur-de-lys Or.

The submitter seeks a masculine name and will accept minor changes.
John is cited as a header spelling on page 178 of the 3rd edition of Withycombe, it was a common english given name from the 12th century onward.
Bucstan is listed under the header spelling Buxton on page 77 of the 3rd edition of Reaney and Wilson. The form requested has dated entries in 1170 and 1221.
de Glonn is a river in Barvaria and its use as a name element is documented on page 189 of the 2nd edition of Bahlow.
John Bucstan would be an excellent 12-13th century English name. The requested name John Bucstan de Glonn combines English given and surnames with a German locative which, while a weirdness, is still registerable in the SCA.

Johns's device

6. Sabine d'Antan

New name (See returns for device).

The submitter seeks a feminine French name of unspecified period. She will not allow any changes.
Should the submitted name prove unregistrable, the submitter would accept the alternate surname Dangereux.
All elements of the name are documented in Dauzat. Sabine may be found on page 533 and is also discussed in academy of Saint Gabriel reports #630 [http://www.s-gabriel.org/630, accessed 12th April 2005] and #496 [http://www.s-gabriel.org/496, accessed 12th April 2005]. Both academy reports state that several variants of the Latin Sabina were used in France, most commonly in the form "Savina", although occasionally in the submitted form shown above.
D'Antan may also be found in Dauzat s.n. Dantan (pg 174) which says "Toutefois un sobriquet elliptique (homme) d'antan (anc. Ír anta, ;'an dernier) n'est pas exclu, car si on a des Ledentu-Ledanté, on ne trouve pas."
The alternate surname Dangereux is listed s.n. Danger (pg 173) as a surname.

7. Serafina di Giovanni Carducci

New name and device.

Vert, on a bend between two pairs of wings conjoined at base Or, three thistles palewise vert seeded gules.

The submitter seeks a feminine Italian name authentic for 16th century Florence. She will allow minor changes.
The Academy of St. Gabriel Report #2939 authored by Arval Benicoeur, discusses her proposed name in some detail. In this article Arval states that while Serafina was not a common name it late period italy there are documentable instances of saints with the modern spelling Seraphina but that in period the original was more likely to follow the masculine examples Seraffo and Serafino which may be found in Ferrante laVolpe's "Men's names from Florence, 1427" [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/castato]. He concludes that Serafina is "at least a plausible name for 16th century Florence".
Giovanni is cited as being common in Ferrante's document, where 739 instances are reported.
The report also discusses evidence for the family name Carducci , which may be found in De Felice's "Dizionario del cognomi italiani".

Serafina's device

8. Thaddeus Blayney

New name (see Returns for device).

The submitter seeks a masculine name authentic for 14th -16th century Wales. He will allow any changes.
Thaddeus is found in "Late Sixteenth Century English Given Names" by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) under Thadeus with a note "Thadeus: More commonly Thaddeus".
Blayney is found under the header spelling Blainey on page 52 of "Welsh Surnames" by Morgan and Morgan. The form Blayney has dated examples given for 1569 and 1538.

9. Yolande Kesteven

New name (see Returns for device).

The submitter seeks a feminine name and make no request of authenticity. She will allow no changes.
Yolande is found in "Late Period French Feminine Names" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) with dated entries for 1483, 1563 and 1601.
Kesteven is found as a header spelling in "A Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames" by Bardsley. Both Kesteven and de Kesteven appear as dated entries for 1379 and the form de Kesetevene is dated to 1273.


Submissions Returned by Crux

1. Ædward Stædefæste

Change of Name and Device Resubmission

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The name is being returned because no payment was received for the submission. Ædward claims that Crux made an error in the original registration and is requesting a free name change. It has also been suggested that since being made a peer a free name change is allowable. However, neither of these cases apply here.
We have traced the history of the original submission through the Crux files. It has been summarised below.
Th name "Ædward Stadefæste" was submitted to Crux Australis in 1994. It was passed on by Crux, unaltered, to the Vesper West Kingdom for inclusion on the West LoI. Vesper changed the originally submitted form "Stadefæste" to "Stædefæste" and then passed the submission on to Laurel for consideration.
The name Ædward Stadefæste was registered on the July 1994 LoAR which states: "Submitted as Ædward Stædefæste on the LoI, the name appears on the forms as Ædward Stadfæste. The LoI failed to mention that this spelling of the byname appears in the OED as the Danish form. Given the Danish presence in England, I can find no compelling reason not to give the submitter his desired spelling."
There was no mistake made at the Crux level. The name was altered by Vesper and then returned to the form that the submitter had originally requested by Laurel. Interestingly, all of these actions were documented in copies of the CAMeL, which at the time was produced by the Ordinance Herald, none other than one Ædward Stadfæste.
In addition to the CAMeLs there are numerous examples of correspondence in the Crux files both before and after his name submission was sent to Laurel from Ædward and in all cases he has used the name "Stadfæste". So it seems unlikely that at the time this was not the preferred spelling.
As a point of interest, in the case where a genuine mistake is made the CoA gives submitters one year from the time of registration to action a free correction. In this case it is over 10 years since the original name registration which is well beyond the one year time limit to correct such an error, had one been made.
With respect to being a free name change for elevation to a peerage, current Lochac policy is that any peer may request a free name change within one year from the time of their elevation. Ædward was made a knight on April 1st 2002. Which has also well exceeded the one year time limit.
This device must also be returned. Though it is possible to document exceptions to the rule of tincture for gules bends on sable fields, the device must be returned for conflict with the arms of the Dukes of Bourbon "Azure, three fleurs-de-lys Or a bendlet gules". The Dukes of Bourbon were part of the royal house of France. Ædward argues that his proposed device should be clear of the Dukes of Bourbon with 1CD for the field and one for a bend vs a bendlet. However, in both period practice and long standing SCA precedent "There is no difference between an ordinary and its diminutive". (LoAR 25 Jan 87, p. 28).
Ædward provided an alternate device "Sable three fleurs-de-lys Or, overall a bend engrailed gules". Though we no longer consider alternate devices, this would be returned for breaking the rules of tincture by having a bend engrailed gules on a sable field. There is no evidence of engrailed or other complex bends breaking the rules of tincture.

Aedwards's device

Aedwards's alternate device

2. Annabella Debonnaire

New Device

Per pale azure and argent, a seablatt counterchanged.

This is in conflict with Sapphira the Navigator "Per pale azure and argent, a fig leaf counterchanged" which was registered in February of 1992 via the East Kingdom. As a seablatt is a stylised leaf there is no difference between the two.

Annabella's device

3. Bliss of Teine

New Name and Device

Per chevron sable and vert, a chevron between two mullets and a rose argent.

The submittor requests an authentic 14th century feminine Welsh name. She will accept minor changes.
The submitter provides documentation of the name Bliss as an English surname in use in period via the header entry "Bliss" on page 38 of Reaney and Wilson "A Dictionary of British Surnames" 2nd ed. No documentation for "Bliss" as a given name was provided.
The submitter has provided copies of several Gaelic-English Dictionaries to show that Teine is the Gaelic word for "fire", "flame" or "lighting". Unfortunately, Gaelic is of the Goidelic branch of the Insular Celtic languages while Welsh is a Brythonic branch language. Thus, a word in a Gaelic dictionary will not be particularly useful documentation for an Welsh counterpart. In this case, tân appears to be the equivalent Welsh word for fire.
No evidence was provided of Teine as a surname in any Celtic language nor of the construction of someone with the surname "of fire". This could in fact be regarded as claim to a mythical origin which is not allowed.
In conclusion the submitter wishes to register an English surname followed by "of" then the Gaelic word for fire. Even had she not made any requests for authenticity this name would not be registerable.
The device is conflict with Da'oud al-Dimashqi " Per chevron sable and vert, a chevron between a decrescent and an increscent and an oak leaf argent" which was registered in October of 2003 via Artemisia. There is only 1 CD for the change of secondary charge group.

Bliss's device

4. Bran Torc Dubh Mac Brude

Name and Device Resubmission

Or a boar statant sable and a bordure gules.

The submitter requests an authentic late 9th to early 10th century masculine Scottish name. He will accept minor changes.
Bran has a long submission history documented in the Crux files. His original name submission Bran Torc Dubh Domhnallach was returned by Crux in November 1997 as no documentation was provided. Crux documented Bran via O'Corrain & Magurie but was not able to document "Torc Dubh" which was stated to mean "black boar" or Domhnallach which was stated to be "little Donnald" as name elements.
Following this a resubmission to Crux was made of the form Bran Torc Dubh Mac Brude. Though, again no documentation for the element "Torc Dubh" was provided the submission was forwarded to Laurel. It was returned by Laurel in January 1999. The LoAR states the following:
"The name is being returned for incorrect structure. While Brude is found in Black's Surnames of Scotland, there is some doubt about it. However, we would have normally given the submitter the benefit of the doubt, and allowed him to use it. However, even if we permit the use of Brude as a name element, we would have to put it into the genitive. Since he allows no changes, we are forced to return the name. Furthermore, while Torc Dubh does mean Black Boar as the submitter states, no documentation was presented for descriptive names of that sort being used in Gaelic names.."
While it would be possible with this resubmission to put Brude into the genitive as Laurel suggests, no new documentation has been provided to support the use of double element descriptive bynames such as Torc Dubh used in this way in period. Thus this does not constitute an appeal of Laurels former ruling.
Brans original device "Argent a celtic boar statant sable within a bordure of celtic interlace, purpure and Or" was returned by Crux in November 1997 for not following period heraldic practice. Following this he submitted "Argent, a boar statant sable" which was returned by Laurel on the January 1999 LoAR for conflict with Dubhghall macEbhearair "Argent, a boar sejant sable armed and langued Or."
This new version of the device seems clear but without a suitable name to accompany it, it must be returned.

Bran's device

5. Guy le Bastard

Device Resubmission

Or a saltire sable in cross four lozenges azure.

This device was originally returned by Crux in November 1997 because the forms were scanned and then printed on a very poor quality printer. As a result the colours were incorrect with Crux complaining at the time that the azure was not azure but purpure.
This device is being returned for a number of reasons. Again the submitter has drawn the device, scanned it and coloured the field electronically then printed it on a coloured printer and done the azure by hand with a marker. In this attempt he has also electronically reduced the size of the forms significantly. The black and white copy was submitted at the correct size. Again, I reiterate Laurel will not accept forms which are undersize and Crux will not accept forms printed with colour printers.
In addition to the problems mentioned above the name on the forms is not the registered name of the submitter. The submitters name was registered on the March 1998 LoAR as Guy le Bastard. The name on the forms is given as Guy l'Bastarde and he has provided no forms requesting a name change.

Guy's device

6. Magdalena da Colle Santa Lucia

New Name and Device

Argent an hourgalss azure, a bordure potenty vert.

The submitter seeks a feminine Italian name of unspecified period. She will allow minor changes.
The name is being returned because although the submitter provided several extracts from an Italian book as evidence for the place Colle Santa Lucia, she did not include copies of the title page.
This device is being returned for a redraw as the bordure is not drawn correctly. The edge should be twice as thick as it is and there should not be a "Y-shaped potent" at the bottom. In addition the potents should not be touching in the corners. It appears clear at this time.

Magdalena's device

7. Sabine d'Antan

New Device

Vert, a bend cotised between a stag springing and an arrow fesswise argent.

This device is being returned for a redraw as the arrow and the stag are too small. Both would be better oriented along the bend. The device appears to be clear at this time.

Sabine's device

8. Thaddeus Blayney

New Device

Quarterly vert and sable, a triquetra point to base and an annulet interlaced Or.

This device is being returned firstly because one form was provided coloured with markers but the others were very poor colour photocopies of the one original. The vert on the photocopies was an odd looking greenish greyish. Secondly there were insufficient forms provided with only three colour copies given and no black and white version provided.

Thaddeus's device

9. Yolande Kesteven

New Device

Quarterly argent and sable, two cinquefoils azure.

This device is being returned for conflict with Ysabella de Montrose "Quarterly argent and sable, two cinquefoils gules", which was registered on the July 2004 LoAR via Lochac. There is only one CD for the change of colour of the cinquefoils.

Yolande's device

9. Yolande Kesteven

New Bade

Fieldless a borage flower proper.

This badge is being returned for conflict with Peregrine du Lac "(Fieldless) A spiderwort blossom azure seeded Or" which was registered in January of 1991 via Ansteorra. There is no difference granted between a borage flower and a spiderwort blossom, both are flowers of few petals.
It may also be in conflict with Alyanora of Vinca " Argent, a periwinkle [Vinca minor] proper" registered in February of 1975 via the West. Periwinkles [Vinca minor] are naturally purple or blue.

Yolande's Badge


Submissions Pended by Crux

None this month.


News from Laurel LoARs

From Laurel's December Letter of Acceptance and Return

Acceptances

B{e'}o{a'}n Freborn.

Name and device. Ermine, a fret purpure, on a chief embattled vert a roundel between two crescents argent.

Bordescros, Shire of.

Device. Per chevron purpure fretty Or and Or, in base a laurel wreath vert.

Thomasina Freborn.

Name.

William Castille.

Badge. Gules, a griffin segreant and a chief Or.


Returns

None!

News from Laurel LoARs

From Laurel's January Letter of Acceptance and Return

Acceptances

Cairistiona inghean Raghnaill.

Device. Gules, a unicorn rampant argent armed and on a bordure Or an orle sable.

Cluain, Canton of.

Branch name and device. Per fess wavy argent and vert, a bull salient guardant sable and a laurel wreath argent.

Dragon Demonskyi.

Name.

Eirikr of Ynys Fawr.

Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name).Per pale argent and gules, two fish hauriant embowed respectant counterchanged.

Elen Benet.

Name and device. Party of six pieces argent and azure, three cinquefoils azure.

Elen Benet.

Blanket permission to conflict with device. Party of six pieces argent and azure, three cinquefoils azure.

Isabella Rossini.

Name.

Kasian Astrakhanovich.

Name.

Lochac, Kingdom of.

Badge for Royal Guild of Defence. (Fieldless) On a compass star gyronny azure and argent an escutcheon gules.

Wolff Hebenstreit.

Name and device. Per pale gules and vert, a wolf rampant contourny and a chief Or.


Returns

Eirikr {TH}orolfsson.

Name.

Aural conflict with Eric Thoralfsson, registered October 1994. Most people would pronounce these names identically.


Crux Seal Wakeline's Signature

Wakeline de Foxley,
Crux Australis Principal Herald


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